Monday, September 17, 2007

Our Leader.


Mr. Bush shared with the nation his interpretation of General Petraus' report. What seemed to be the focus of his speech? What is something that you agree with that the president said? What question would you have for the president after hearing this speech? Has this speech changed your mind or re assured you of our current position in Iraq?

25 comments:

dark king said...

♠♥♣ ♦We have become the world police. The original reason we invaded Iraq was because they were said to have weapons of mass destruction. Yet we stay there liberating on entire country of Iraq. In the speech Bush says that the Surge is going well and Iraq is becoming safer and more united as the economy gradually begins to improve. Bush says that the government needs to take a more active role in the country in order for them to have a stable system. I somewhat agree with Bush saying how where helping them and all but I don’t fell that that is our responsibility to liberate them from the tyrant control at the risk of having our men’s lives put on the line in order to do so.♦ ♠♥♣

John said...

The report given by General Petraus to both the House and Senate, after they fixed his microphone of course, held that the surge was working and that Iraq is becoming more secure by the day. I do agree with what the President said about Iraqis wanting for their children what we want for our children, every parent wants a better life for their children. Every parent wants their children to grow up in a safe environment. But can you honestly say that having this surge continue is the best thing for our children. Certainly it makes their children safer, but it leaves many of our without fathers or mothers. In his report General Petraus said that we can begin scaling back our forces in Iraq, but this scale back will leave more of our soldiers in Iraq than before the surge. That would not be a scaling back of soldiers, but an increase. If we were really going to be scaling back, wouldn't there be fewer troops in Iraq than before the surge?

dark king said...

Mr Brown dark king is Wes just 2 let u know cuz i forgot to put my name on it sorry :D

WSingleton said...

Whitney Singleton]]

his speech focused on the troops coming home. He didnt say anything i agree with , but i agreed with the parent who wrote the letter an stated "freedom isnt free". the question i would ask to bush would be if he genuinely believes that iraq is our allie?!

Anonymous said...

i couldn't really listen to what Mr. Bush was saying, but its GREAT that the troops are coming home after fighting for so long. I agree with Whitney how freedom isn't free. I just realized that if some of the troops are coming home, wouldn't there be less troops fighting then? Wouldn't that be sort of bad?
-TLau

Anonymous said...

There are many reasons why we we are in iraq but it confuses me day by day because evertytime you turn around you in iraq for oil or mass destruction but after hearing the speech from bush there are other reasons. I am still against this war but i realize that its not ending really theres nothing we can do but hope its over soon.-Octavia Ramos

Anonymous said...

Kristen Fitz

I agree with john but I under stand why we can have all of the solders back here in the us yet you cant just pull them out it would be nice if you can but you really cant like Mr. Brown said if you do that and don’t fix us or clean up what you destroyed then they will not like the us and then they will go after the us. By Mr. Bush making this speech I think it was good because some people want to know what is going on and congress is helping/ voting on what happens as well.

W Brown said...

Does this speech change your opinion of the War? or President Bush?

Anonymous said...

I agree with what every else saying basically but this definitely changes my opinion about THIS war. It shows now much nonsense is going on, to send over say 200,000 troops and only bring home 1,500 doesnt really help anybody, its not a win/win or win/lose. Obviously we cant bring everyone back here until this war finally tides over but Im sure the handful of soldiers coming back wont go against this. Just because President Bush made one speech does not change his persona.He's still the same president we had over the years nothing more, nothing less.

-Alex P.

Anonymous said...

I agree with whitney. George Bush's speech mostly did focus on da troops coming home from Iraq. I definitely agree on about how "freedom isn't free" because you need to go through a lot to get freedom especially when it comes to war.

Anonymous said...

sorry mr brown i forgot to write my name on da last comment...its Simran k =]

W Brown said...

Let us try to use the language of school when we post here. I think we will be better able to share our ideas. Using the word "da" instead of "the" can be distracting to a reader and take away from your point.

a faller said...

in response to Mr. Brown's comment, i don't really think that the speach that President Bush said really changed my mind on the war in Iraq or him as a president. It's sad to say that i think that President Bush decison making has been very poor. When Sepetember 11 happened, i think that many people wanted to take revenge and gain justice to the events that happened. But the war that has be on going ever since, is uneccassary and inmpossible. It's glad to hear that 2,000 troops will be comeing home this december, but how much is 2,000 when we have about 180,000 troops in Iraq. I think that President Bush's views and ideas have really changed because now he has nothing to really work for. He is not up for re election, so he can pretty much do whatever he wants. Since he does not need the approval of Congress, President Bush is all for himself. I just hope that he wakes up and realizes that he needs to make some moves, and he needs to make them fast.

Courtney Wilson said...

It is hard to tell where "Mr. President" was going with this speech or if he even believed any of the words he said. His postion changes throughout. At first, he states that the troops will be coming home slowly but surely. But, in a way, he contradicted himself by reading the letter from the parent of a deceased troop because they preached that we need to finish the war strong. How is this possible with the withdrawing of troops taking place as soon as January. I agree with Alex in the sense that no action should take place until both sides have eased their respective warfare.

Superfly said...

Just to pose a question to the people who say that "freedom isn't free," namely Simron; is what our government is doing in Iraq "freeing" anyone? I'm curious as to what we mean when we say free. Who's version of freedom are we using here?

Additionally, several of you spoke about the section of his speech in which the president talks about the Iraqi people and the American people wanting the same thing for their children: "a decent life and a peaceful future." Is that at all possible at this point? A "decent life," I think, can have many different definitions, however, a "peaceful future," as I see it, can have only one meaning. Can that happen? Kristin commented on the fact that, if we pull out now without fixing anything we've broken, it puts us in far greater danger. But how long will it take us to "fix" things? Can we fix things? I am unsure as to whether this is possible now. The damage has already been done. How do we, as furure (and present!) leaders and thinkers, go about trying to change this predicament?

Anonymous said...

I agree with superfly's comment.The main focus of Mr. Bush's speech was on the troops coming come, bascically about the Iraq War. I have one question in my mind after hearing the speech in class , which is how come we are in Iraq trying to fix things and trying to do in that in our own nation? He's president for a little while, so he's going to try to solve only a little porportion of the problems, not alot of them.Since, he's not going to be the president for very long and the next president might take as much time as Bush has to end the Iraq War.(Manpreet Kaur)

Anonymous said...

courteney richardson

I personally feel that bush wasn't prepared at all for the speech. I also feel that he's not willing to pull any troops from iraq. I highly disagree that he says he's trying to save iraq from all the destruction , he is the main reason of the down fall of iraq. hearing that speech haven't change my opinion on bush and the war. I just feel the united states is greedy.

Anonymous said...

I also agree with the comment that Whitney said about his speech mostly focusing on the troops comin home. But also, I dont think that they should bring them all home because there is still a lot of work to be done over there. If we pull our troops out now, all the progress we have gained since entering Iraq will most likley be lossed. I believe that we still have a couple more years or more to spend in Iraq if we are going to accomplish what we set out do do there in the first place and help create a stable democracy. As well as President Bush read in the letter, freedom isnt free, were over there controling everything they do. We will not see real freedom until there government is stable an our troops are back home in the following years to come.

~Kristal Atchison~

Anonymous said...

To tell you truth i didnt really know where Mr. Bush was going with his speech but i think that he really does care about the troops in Iraq despite what everybody says about him, but at the same time I agree with Alyssa. President Bushes decisions were very poor. Now he's not even up for re-election so I dont think he has that same drive anymore. He can pretty much do anything at this point and problems will be brought onto the next president. As for the troops coming home in december im glad for that but its really not helping anything I think.
-Bryan Strickland

matt morrison said...

although he stated troops were coming home this chirstmas what he did not state is that troops come home every christmas. Another thing that alarms me is the fact that he has no reason to continue to aid or guide this contry due to the fact that he cannot be re-elected. IM am interested in seeing what happnes in the next few months.

Anonymous said...

His speech is really about bringing the troops back and making the country better.I agree on everything president bush said but the part where he said we're trying to make the country better place because have of the people don't want the troops there and have of them do. And also have of the people that are getting killed in Iraq they have family's and what if there children grow up and say thats the guy i killed my dad and I'm going to kill him. The question i would ask Bush after hearing this speech is that if you make Iraq a better country would the value of money over there go up or down? This speech kind of change my mind it kind of made me feel like i should go to Iraq.

-Khizer H.

W Brown said...

Matt, glad to hear you are interested in what the outcome will be. I wish you could have stayed for the entire in class speech. I know it can be slow paced for HS students but in order to critically analyze our world around us we must be informed.

I am impressed at how many of you decided to respond to the post.

Khizer what would you be able to do in Iraq?

W Brown said...

ANYTHING AFTER THIS IS A 3 WEEKs LATE

tobin v. said...

I agree in the importance of helping the people but NOT at such a large cost- this has become so much more than losing the lives of our soldiers but, affected America’s economy and budget for many different things. He seems to be highly concerned about the welfare of the people of Iraq such as the building of schools and other things but what about the school system in America. I believe while George Bush dedicates his time to aiding the people of Iraq he is forgetting how all his actions are affecting the people of this nation. Instead of spending billions of tax payer’s dollars in helping Iraq, why isn’t he focusing on the needs of his own people? While our nation is suffering whether it is healthcare, or the education system, George Bush seems to ignore it all. The most positive issue he discussed was that the soldiers would be coming back home.

W Brown said...

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