Wednesday, February 13, 2008

Two Articles on National Election

Article # 1


Article # 2



After reading these two articles:

Does a close and heated primary help or detract from a political party? What are your predictions for the national election? How has the focus of each canidate shifted? Give specific examples from either the disscusion in class or the articles linked above.

12 comments:

Manpreet Kaur said...

A close and heated primary detracts from a political party, because laterit will make it easier for another party to win.I mean if Hillary and Obama clash at each other, then they will both be broken down,and they will use all the power to beat each other, rather than beating the Rebuplicans.
In paragraph seventeen, there are statements about resourses and using backups to win. In paragraph eighteen there is a question to whom John Edward will join. In class, Mr. Brown you said he might join Hillary Clinton. Obama wants to win McCain, he comapres Bush with McCain.He calls it the "Bush and McCain regime."
Hillary clinton still has chances to win, if shes gets the most delegates in Texas and Ohio. Otherwise, the way Obama has won eight states I think he will be the one who will be picked to run for national elections.

Anonymous said...

JAMAAL ADAMS

I agree with what manpreet said about them going so hard on each other that they are forgetting that there is an whole other party they are going against. I also think that a close and heated primary brings out the best and also the worst in any canidates involved. Bashing each other is a hugh part of this race, but where will they cross the line. Don't forget that after the demorcratic race they might and will need some support from each other to over come the other party, as Mr. brown was sayiing in the class about the whole circle system with the "I LOVE HILLARY",and "I HATE HILLARY" where if OBAMA got some or most of the moral support of one of these groups how he can sweep through the election. My perdictions are that Hillary V.S. McCain will be the final race.

Anonymous said...

I agree with both Manpreet and Jamaal they both need to use there energy on winning against the republicans and not them selves. I really don't blame them much for trying to get there voice heard because they is going to be a hard choice. They both have good views. Hillary won the main states and he had more numbers. And who doesn’t want a first black man or the first women president? But what they need to do is try to team up so we can keep the Bush and McCain regime out of office for good. I kind of agree with Jamaal I do think it might be Hillary V.S. McCain will be the final race. Even though the media makes it seem that Obama is ahead. Remember we can't really rely on the media much as we can see. All we can do is to go out and vote and talk to our peers about it to.





KEMI AJIROTUTU

Anonymous said...

In class we talked about how the primaries on the democratic side are so close and that in a way it can detract from a politcal party. We used examples of how senator Mcain is already taking shots at Obama and the democratic primary isnt even over yet. Mr brown used the example of two people beating up on eachother for a long time and the winner of that fight has to go and fight somebody else immediately after. After reading these two articles and keeping up to speed with the election I feel as if Obama has a strong chance of winning the elecetion.With all the momentum in the world and him just winning his 10th state in a row his increasing popularity might be too much for the other candidates.

-Jblount

Courtney Wilson said...

I agree with Jamaal.I believe that a close primary race can actually help & hurt the political parties in the long run. It shows that each nominee running for office has a "never-say-die" attitude. When the public sees their strength and resilience, they see that either candidate is going to fight their best fight when it comes to the presidential election or even in the presidency. But when these nominees have beaten each other up in the primary stages, there is a great disadvantage when it comes to running for president because the othe candidate now knows their counterpart's weaknesses and continue where their opponent in the primary left off.

Anonymous said...

Vickie Lennon
I agree with Courtney, in that having a close primary race coud have some advantages to the party, but of course it could also lead to the the candidates downfall. I think it all depends on whether the candidate running for himself or for the party. If a candidate was running not to gain recognition or power, but to the changes made they believe need to be put into place, then they wouldn't care if they won or their rival in the primary election, because either way their views would be represented. I think this blood bath of a primary race shows that the candidates have more loyalty to themselves, and furthering their careers, than to their party.
I also believe that the general public needs to be better informed on the election process. I don't think half of the people reading these articles would even know what the term "superdeligate" means and the effect they could have on electing the democratic candidate. Many people think that the candidate who recieves the most number of wins, and that is not always the case.
How will the public react if Clinton is given her party's nomination even with Obama winning most of the states and the popular vote?

Domonique said...

When Mr.Brown used the example in class of someone waiting for two people to finish fighting, to fight the victor, and taking cheap shots at the person who seems to be losing this makes it easier to view the conflict among the democratic political party in the primaries as a big mistake on their part. Still I agree with Jonathan in saying that Obama has a strong chance of winning the race, not only for his momentum. Being what he is, a Black man running for president, you cant help but be curious about what is going to happen if he does get elected into office.Which is one of the reasons many people are choosing to vote fro him in the first place. This and the fact that he is a very intellectual speaker and seems to be a man with a plan, I have no Doubt that he will win the Democratic primaries despite the so called "detract" that seems to be occurring. My only worry is what is going to take place In the actual presidential election against Obama and McCain. It worries me to think of what a more experienced candidate like McCain has up his sleeves in the upcoming race

*Dahmo

W Brown said...

Domonique what is going to happen? Why should anything different happen? What is his plan? Does McCain's experience help or hurt his campaign?

Anonymous said...

As Jamal and Manpreet said Hillary and Obama going so hard on eachother is not the smartest idea. Although only one of them will actually become president the other will be vice pres. and eventually president too so i think instead of them fighting they should help boost eachothers image to ensure the victory for the party. Does anyone agree?

Matt Morrison

John said...

I agree with what Vicky said. She could not have really put it better. In certain cases it can be good, more views get seen, problems are brought up and so do solutions to said problems. In a primary where that kind of thing happens the candidate will be strengthened and turned into an almost unstoppable force. But the current democratic primary is weakening both candidates. Obama is an incredible speaker, but he doesn't have details to back it up. Hillary has the oposite problems. It has come to the point where all Hillary can do is try to stay alive. But the fact that she continues to fight it weakens Obama, it just gives McCain ammo he doesn't really need.
Obama has fired a few shots at McCain to try and weaken him, the whole "Bush-McCain Republicans" thing isn't very thought out. If he wanted to McCain could do the samething to Obama, by that I mean compare how Obama doesn't have much experience and how Bush had almost no experience going in. This brings me to what Matt said, if the two of them keep this up neither one would really stand a chance in the real election. Right now they should be trying to boost each other up, instead of knocking each other down.

John said...

I agree with what Vicky said. She could not have really put it better. In certain cases it can be good, more views get seen, problems are brought up and so do solutions to said problems. In a primary where that kind of thing happens the candidate will be strengthened and turned into an almost unstoppable force. But the current democratic primary is weakening both candidates. Obama is an incredible speaker, but he doesn't have details to back it up. Hillary has the oposite problems. It has come to the point where all Hillary can do is try to stay alive. But the fact that she continues to fight it weakens Obama, it just gives McCain ammo he doesn't really need.
Obama has fired a few shots at McCain to try and weaken him, the whole "Bush-McCain Republicans" thing isn't very thought out. If he wanted to McCain could do the samething to Obama, by that I mean compare how Obama doesn't have much experience and how Bush had almost no experience going in. This brings me to what Matt said, if the two of them keep this up neither one would really stand a chance in the real election. Right now they should be trying to boost each other up, instead of knocking each other down.

Anonymous said...

A close primary in which there is no clear-cut favorite candidate to
win the presidential nomination of their political party definitely detracts from the political party. When the primary is heated between two or more candidates, this signifies that there is no real unity in the political party. If there is a favorite for the presidential nomination of the party, then the entire party can rally around that one candidate and throw their full support behind them. The fact that Senators Obama and Clinton have such divided support among voters and are having such fierce debates week after week shows the lack of unity in the Democratic Party. This split between democrats is not beneficial for the unity of the party.
I predict Senator Obama will win the Presidential Election this
year, defeating Senator McCain in a close election. Both articles stated how momentum is on Obama's side with his string of victories over Senator Clinton recently, and that the pressure is on Clinton now to win both Ohio and Texas to still have a chance at her party's nomination. Also, many conservative voters in the recent primaries said how McCain wasn't conservative enough for them, so it doesn't seem to me McCain has tremendous support from his party. I think the voters' desire for change and Senator Obama's surging momentum will carry him to the Presidency in 2008.
Senator Obama is now using his rising momentum and recent victories as evidence to try and convince the Democratic Party that he is the best candidate for the Presidency and should receive the nomination over Senator Clinton. Senator Clinton is focusing her efforts on trying to win the primaries in Ohio and Texas to keep her campaign hopes alive. Senator McCain is the favorite to win the Republican nomination, so he is starting to campaign for the Presidency already.

-Anta R.