Tuesday, September 26, 2006

Who gets to Vote


Using the new rubric we disscussed in class, write about how voter eligibility seems to be evolving according to the article we read in class. Should state identification cards be mandatory? What concerns are being raised? Who should be allowed to vote?

11 comments:

Jason Mangubat said...

Stricter Voting Laws Carve Latest Divide
Certain states such as Georgia, Indiana, and Missouri wants stricter laws. Republicans want voters to have a state identification. I think that leaves out certain groups of people like the elderly and poor people. I think they are trying to keep certain people out. For example: It would make it difficult for people who could not locate birth certificates. The American Indians also for example are too poor to drive or don't have electric or telephone bills. The first question is:
1. Who gets to vote?

~RitaMarie~ said...

In certain ways I agree with Jason on the fact that it "...leaves out certain groups of people..." such as the elderly. The government should make it easier for them. However, one section of the article appalled me. I couldn't believe the case it pleaded for Native Americans. There are many people who are poor all over, not just them. There is no reason that they can't take a bus (or walk) and get a state ID if they really want to vote that badly. Not to sound heartless or anything but it's the truth. If you want something bad enough there is always a way to get it. It may not be the easiest or most convenient way but there is still a way. If you have no place of residency, than you should worry about getting a job and establishing a life before you worry about voting.

shanicca c said...

I read the article and I dont think that people need their ID to vote because some people don't have a state ID. I think it will put a limit the votes because of that the people and the lack of not having an ID.Mr. brown made a good statement when I asked "why can't they just go and get a state ID (NON-DRIVERS LICENCE)" he said "maybe their are people who have a bad history and they might think that if they go down to get an ID there history will be pull up... and they don't want to take chances." i agree with him but i don't think they would... hey i really dont know.

shanicca c said...

I read the article and I dont think that people need their ID to vote because some people don't have a state ID. I think it will put a limit the votes because of that the people and the lack of not having an ID.Mr. brown made a good statement when I asked "why can't they just go and get a state ID (NON-DRIVERS LICENCE)" he said "maybe their are people who have a bad history and they might think that if they go down to get an ID there history will be pull up... and they don't want to take chances." i agree with him but i don't think they would... hey i really dont know.

Sharkey said...

By what Jason and Rita Marie said I agree with them. The ways they should make it easier by sending in a form so they don’t have to leave their house. The poor people who were born citizens of the United States should vote. Even though they don’t have a place to live. Can’t they just put down the address of a homeless shelter? Every vote does count if you’re rich or poor. Why did they just point out the American Indians? There are many other poor people in the United States. Why do you need an ID card to vote? Some people might not be able to get one because of problems they might have or had with the government.

vishnell said...

I think that this whole issue is unfair in so many ways. Its not right that some people cant get or have drivers license for certain reasons and then cannot vote. No matter what some people like Rita said how people can get whatever is required to be eligible to vote if they want it that bad. I don’t agree with her for the simple fact some people cannot get an id that easily you don’t know about certain issues and difficulties people have to face for their own reasons. To be able to vote is a way for people to be heard and have rules maybe changed. So that’s why I don’t think it should be so strict and have certain requirements that some people can’t meet.
The article we read in class talked about a woman by the name Mrs. Steele who voted all her adult life suddenly will not be able to vote because in Arizona there is a law that says you have to have proof of citizenship to register. That I find unfair because how do you take away someone’s right to vote out of nowhere. All of a sudden something like this is stopping women who is used to voting every time. She has reasons and difficulties that are keeping her from voting. I agree with her when she stated “I could see where you would want to keep people who don’t belong in the country from voting, but there has to be an easier way.” This is something that’s making a lot of people upset and making them loose their opportunity to be heard.

nyshee said...

i agree wit vishell because its un fair to the amercian people that we have to vote and show i.d to vote on the next mayor or pres. isnt it just made to point that the american people already vote? so why show i.d if the gov. already have y0ur information in the system

Corrie* said...

In class we read and discussed an article about how certain people [mostly politics] want to make stricter voting laws. I think that the laws for voting shouldn’t change. People shouldn’t have to stop voting just because they don’t have a photo id.

“The new measures include tighter controls over absentee balloting and stronger registration rules. The most contentious are laws in three states — Georgia, Indiana and Missouri — where people need government-issued picture ID’s to vote, and provisions here in Arizona that tightened voter ID requirements at the polls and imposed the proof-of-citizenship requirement for voter registration.”

I think issuing photo voting ID cards isn’t a good idea. It is only good for people who don’t have any photo id at all who need some kind of id. But for those who have a driver’s license or non driver’s license issued by the state don’t need one. You shouldn’t have to go to the state office to get id because once you get down there you could get in some kind of trouble like missing court dates, unpaid tickets, etc. Yes voting ID cards will keep illegal immigrants out of the polls but there haven’t been many reports about illegal immigrants going to polls. But one of my main concerns is what are they going to do to Hurricane Katrina victims who might not have any kind of US citizen documentation on them. There has to be a better and easier way for citizens to vote and get their voice heard at the same time.

Sam said...

I am in comlete and total agreement with corrie! A State ID would definitely limit the # of voters and that would give a boost to one party over the other. Legally, everyone gets to vote and to ask for more requirements than we have already is pushing it. (I also believe we should lower the voting age but that has nothing to do with anything! I love Rita's Native American point, because it's an important thing to think about, as is Corrie's Hurricane Katrina victim reference.
If anything this argument has a disgusting political spin, a tug-o-war between democrats and republicans! Its like a sick schoolyard game, that is definitely sad and unfortunate. "Democrats say there is minimal fraud, if any, and accuse Republicans of suppressing the votes of those least likely to have the required documentation — minorities, the poor and the elderly — who tend to vote for Democrats." This sounds more like a he said she said type argument. They should drop the whole thing, lower the voting age to 16, and shut up.

Josh said...

I do think that anyone who is voting should be requiered to show valid photo identification. When I read this article and I found out that, photo i.d. wasn't required to vote I was quite shocked. Voting and who you vote for is such a private thing, so I would think that the voting laws would be more strict than they already are. I feel that identification is necessary because without it, there are so many risk of non registered voters voting, and using other people's identities to do so. Although we discussed the negative aspects of enforcing this law now, I still feel that the positive outway the negative.

bulka said...

Everyone 18+ should be allowed to vote.By only allowing people with state id/drivers license to vote, I dont think there will be much of a difference, since the majority of people do have a drivers license or state id and if they dont atleast have a state id then they shouldnt be allowed to vote, plain and simple, and if they dont want to get one, then i guess ya aint votin! And about sams comment about the minimum age to be 16, I think there are a lot of 16-17 year olds are mature enough to vote, but there are a lot more that would just go and vote for whoever, I dont know, thats just my thoughts.