Tuesday, October 31, 2006

Race Preferences Vote


"The ballot initiative, Proposition 2, which would amend Michigan’s Constitution to bar public institutions from considering race or sex in public education, employment or contracting, has drawn wide opposition from the state’s civic establishment, including business and labor, the Democratic governor and her Republican challenger. But polls show voters are split, with significant numbers undecided or refusing to say where they stand."

After reading the article where do you stand?

10 comments:

Edwin Genao said...

I think affirmative action which gives a break to black people, Spanish people and girls is a good thing. It kind of makes up for all the wrong that was done in this country since black people came into this country as slaves.
Ms. Gratz who was on the waiting list for her college even though she did well felt that she was given a bad deal. She was at the top of her class and didn't get into the college. She went to another college and did well. She feels that no one should be judged on race or sex.

Jason Mangubat said...

All people are the same. We all experience the same things. Just because you are a certain race you are not better than someone else. I think the grades are important. I think everybody should have the same choice. I don't think that someone with bad grades should get into because of their race.

nyshee....... said...

when ms gratz was on a waiting list and that she never returned the postcard to be on the waiting list. i think that the times newspaper should of ask for the essay that she wrote and the person that was last to go into the college to compare the two to see why.

the thing i didn't like about the article was that it was mostly about blacks and spanish people and i didnt like the way of that and that it was little bit of commments on whites. the race thing plays a major role in this because high colleges want the people that get good grades and do alot of work. sometimes students that are good in sports. i think that colleges look at your area that you live like mr brown said in class, to see where you came from or to see if the college take you im or not

Anonymous said...

Like Edwin and Jason said, noone should be judged by the color of their skin or their sex. I believe that whoever works hard and proves themselves worthy should get a better chance than someone else simply because they are different from the majority in the school. It is that kind of "pressure" that gives people a drive to do better and to want to succeed. We should not be looking at majority and minority but we should be looking at grades and school spirit.
Michelle Asciote

Sharkey said...

I think that they should take affirmative action away because it does single people out which is very wrong. There is people who try harder to succeed than the people who don’t and they get priority which is wrong. The people who do study everyday and give there social life away because they want to do good in life than the people who get pick to go to college because they are the morality and do very little work.

vishnell said...

After so much that is happened race and sex is still a big issue. It surprises me that it can be a problem for public education, employment, or contracting. Me being a 17 year old teenager I am more concerned about the education being effected. College is a big step and a change in your life that you would want considered in the best way possible. The college you get accepted to be should be by your grades, work, and effort you have put in your education. If race and sex can be a greater factor then your grades and hard work then that’s a problem.

If I am going to get accepted of rejected from a college I would want the reason to be a good reason. How unfair is it for the color of your skin or your gender stop you from getting into a school that you deserve to go too. You don’t choose to be born a male or female neither a certain race. I always wonder when people can be so racist or sexist do they stop to think what if they were the race or gender they are discriminating against. This is a type of thing you can’t decide yourself but you should feel honored of being and also respect others and who they are.

stephy said...

I agree with everyone's comments. Everyone is the same and NOBODY should be taking for grantid. Everyone should be givin a shot and if people cannot accept that than they have serious problems!

zohra said...

When reading the article I never really thought race could be one of the factors that affected you getting accepted to college, that it would decide the fate of making or breaking your college career. I don’t think its fair to have a scholarship based on race, or diversity because the college needs you to make them look like their not segregating their schools. I agree with vicinal in that it is unfair for colleges to look at the color of skin to be a major reason why I get into a college. If I am going to be accepted to a college I rather it be based on what I can do, instead of what I look like. I think that the whole seek program for financial help and the race part on the college application should be taken off. I don’t think a persons economic standings should even be looked at when you apply to college because they need people from different economic backgrounds. I just really hate the fact that they pick and choose their students not by grades, or what they have accomplished but by what they need to complete their college after students graduate. Its like colleges go to the supermarket at the admissions office and hand pick students not for being ripe, smart and the best but just because they need to pick up a few bad apples that are different than the bunch. Don’t get me wrong, diversity is key to a college but why cant admissions be blind? I think every race has the same brain and capabilities to succeed and achieve the same grades as any other race. I think that this cause is a cause that will always be on the low radar because many people think its to their advantage, but the man in the article who was colored said he doesn’t need it and finds it offensive. I really do think that by having these race scholarships or recruiting diverse students into a college is unfair and sends a message to a race saying they are incompetent to be accepted because of your grades, but the color of your skin and background is just what we’ve been looking for. it’s the year 2006, and I thought we had moved on from compensating races and trying to make up for segregation. I think we all can achieve as one race that has no defining color, but one with a strong mind and drive to move forward and gain knowledge.

PS: this post isn’t late, you said we had until Wednesday. Its still Tuesday!

carolina barberii said...

I disagree with keeping affirmative action and I absolutely agree with Vishnell’s comment. Our forefathers and ancestors have done so much to grant minorities and women equal rights but I feel like we are taking advantage by benefiting off of affirmative action. Affirmative action is bittersweet, though it comes as an advantage to minorities and women it is cheating others of educational possibilities. That statement can relate to Mrs. Gratz (a white woman) who was put on a waiting list although I didn’t think she was a good example for displaying the effects of the topic. In the past when I’ve filled out any application that questioned race or sex I never really thought anything of it but now I will think twice before filling that section out. I would hate to think I got into a college because of my race or sex instead of grades that I put all my effort into. Worst of all it seems that the motives behind this are to make up for mistakes in the past, which is completely ridiculous. However, like Mr. Brown said in class there is a bigger issue here being completely avoided. Rather than excusing people based on race or sex we should work to get our elementary, middle schools and high schools better education. Once that is done and affirmative action is eliminated I would like to see the outcome I think it would be very interesting to see how the numbers added up.

W Brown said...

Late After Here!